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Re: feature request: SEARCH within filter and address lists

From:Peter Young Date:9 Jul 2017 16:06
In Reply To: feature request: SEARCH within filter and address lists (Jim Nagel)
Replies: Re: feature request: SEARCH within filter and address lists (Nick Roberts)
Re: feature request: SEARCH within filter and address lists (Richard Mellish)

On 9 Jul 2017  Jim Nagel <mpro@...> wrote:

> I've probably posted about this in the past, praps plurally,
> but it bears repeating, for as the lists grow so does the need:

> Please could there be a Search facility
>      within the MPro addressbook and
>      also in the MPro "filtering rules" dialogue?

> Finding an address can be a royal pain, because it could be within any
> of the various "folders" within the addressbook, which have to be
> manually and individually opened.  As Mrs N says: "I know I put the
> address here last year, but WHERE???"

Not an answer to this problem, and I agree that a definitive answer 
would be welcome, but there's a possible work-round, if you know any 
part of the entry you need to search for, which indeed I used a couple 
of days ago to find and address.

1) Search !NewsDir for all occurrences of *addr* and open all the 
resulting directories.

2) Open anything that has the name AddrBook, possibly followed by 
digits, in StrongED.

3) Press F2 to open the list of found window, and search for whatever 
you know about the entry using "all texts" as the search scope.

> Finding a filter can be another right royal pain, especially if the
> user (like me) has accumulated a long list of filtering rules over the
> years, because the list is sorted according to the Priority assigned
> to that rule and there is no option to sort by any other criterion.
> Moreover, one might well have forgotten what name was given to the
> filter when it was set up two years ago.

If you remember any part of what's in the filter, the same approach 
should work.

> As a workaround, it would help to have a button or a menu option on
> each of these dialogues that would simply open the underlying textfile
> where MPro stashes the addressbook or filters data -- which then could
> be searched with good ol' !Edit or StrongEd.

Couldn't you do this with a Filer_OpenDir Obey file? Yes, just tried 
it. For me, this file does that for the address books:

Filer_OpenDir SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Resources.!NewsDir.Messenger
Filer_OpenDir SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Resources.!NewsDir.UserHome.pnyoung

> And also, while I'm in moan mode, please let's get rid of those
> horrible Microsoft-style fixed-size scrolling panes in those
> dialogues!  The Filtering list shows only 10 lines, and the
> addressbook only 17 -- so even the primordial "skim by eye" method of
> search is a faff and a half.

Yes, please. Have you asked Andrew?

> The addressbook in my experience is a serious weak point in MPro.
> I've looked at using Bookmaker (by Nick Roberts) instead, because it
> does have Search, but am scared off by the danger of it and the MPro
> book getting out of step (see Bookmaker user guide).  Could MPro be
> made to interface better with Bookmaker?  Maybe even hand the job
> totally over to Bookmaker?

I never got on with Bookmaker. Sorry, Tigger!

Best wishes,


Peter Young (zfc Ir) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England

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