Re: Network server problem

Hi Peter,

In message <8f5c578457.news@...>
          "newsgroups" <news@...> wrote:

> In message <d2f8a88357.thebears@thebears@...>
>           Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have messenger 8.01 set up as a network server. The W10 laptop with
> > Thunderbird and the Android tablet with Bird mail use IMAP to get the
> > mail from Risc Os. Most of the time this works fine but sometimes,
> > especially when you want it, one or other or both only load the headers
> > and no text of html. I haven't been able to see any diffence in messages
> > that do or don't work, but since it happens to both systems I wonder if
> > I have something wrong in Messenger's setup.
>
> > RISC OS 5.27
>
> > Any ideas.
>
> > TTFN
>
> I'm afraid you're experiencing a bug that has existed in the IMAP
> component of Messenger for a very long time. I first reported it to
> Andrew at R-Comp around 2010 but his initial response was that since I
> was the only person reporting it, it was either my setup or a bug in
> Thunderbird. After wading through reams of Thunderbird logs I was able
> to identify the IMAP command that caused the problem and was then able
> to reproduce it repeatedly by telneting directly into Messenger - thus
> removing both Thunderbird and the PC from the equation.
>
> As you might have already found the problem only exists when fetching
> a single email - multiple simultaneous fetches always work correctly.
>
> The best solution I have found is to load Thunderbird's Config Editor
> and set the Preferences 'mail.server.default.download_on_biff' to TRUE
> and 'mail.imap.use_status_for_biff' to FALSE. There are plenty of
> guides on the web for loading and editing 'config'.
>
> There are also a couple of work-arounds that seem to succeed most of
> the time !
>
> 1  On my system the problem only seemed to occur if I tried to read an
> email directly after delivery - if you wait say 30 minutes the fetch
> seems to work. This might be because I have most of my folders set to
> store locally for offline use.
>
> 2  Try clicking on an old email and then immediately the new one -
> this I think causes a double fetch and usually works. The second click
> does need to be immediate and while the first email is still loading.
>
> 3  If both of these fail right-click over the email folder and select
> Properties -> General Information -> Repair Folder.
>
> 4  As a real last resort right click as above and select Properties ->
> Synchronization -> tick Select for offline and then Download Now.
>
> Note that the first two above will only work for the first fetch
> attempt - if it's already tried and failed only the final two will
> succeed.
>
> As a matter of interest I've been running Messenger / Netfetch as an
> email fetcher and IMAP server to multiple PC's since around 2005 using
> a Risc PC, Iyonix and now TiMachine. Thunderbird is running on several
> Laptops, Netbooks and Tablets, all using IMAP.  Apart from this single
> bug the system works extremely well and is totally reliable.
>
Thank you very much for your interesting reply. Looks like at least
three of us have the problem.

I have made the changes to Thunderbird that you suggested and I'll see
how it goes.

I hadn't noticed the fact that it was only for single emails but that
explains a lot. The other day I was trying to reset a password and
Netsurf wouldn't do it so I went to the laptop and there was no text.
More attempts also failed but of course I was only loading one email.

If it is OK with you I will contact Andrew quoting your diagnosis and
see if anything happens ;-)

TTFN
-- 
Geoff.
Using Elesar Titanium.
Isn't that a pip?

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